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Thrasymachus definition of justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger 338 c By this he means that people in ruling positions will make laws to their own advantage Thrasymachus explains how rulers are surely stronger and make laws to fit their own interests Then he states that because of this justice is the advantage of the established rule 338 e Socrates then speaks of rulers of crafts such as a ships captain or a doctor who provide rules to benefit their subjects rather than themselves He gets Thrasynachus to reluctantly agree that a kind of knowledge seeks to rule what is advantageous to the weaker which is subject to it 342 d Thrasymachus falls to self-contradiction because he agrees to the exact opposite of his original definition In this way Socrates succeeds in the objective goal through self-contradiction Socrates states that all men and women are to be treated equal in all aspects of life 457 d Men and women royals share responsibilities in ruling as guardians they also eat sleep and live together Sharing family and wealth keeps people from being jealous or greedy In Socrates explanation of his ideal city this would keep the best of men and women breeding together The idea behind this is to create the best breed of children 459 e The lower class may have sex with each other however when their children have been reared they will be sent to a separate part of the city In this secret place children of inferior parents will be raised so as to keep the guardian breed pure 460 c Socrates says that democracy has the finest or most beautiful of constitutions 557 c In a democracy there is no requirement to rule or to be ruled when or if you dont want to He seems to disagree with this as well as not having to be a juror 557 c In my
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