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The City of Swine By When one looks at why Plato would have included Glaucons sarcastic remark of calling the first city a city of swine 372d in his dialogue the Republic of Plato one must understand what it is that Glaucon was talking about To understand what Glaucons sarcastic remark meant and how important it was is because there had to be more to what Plato was writing about And that Glaucons remark helped lead Platos writings right into what followed For Im sure to assume that Polemarchus Thrasymuchus and Cephalus would have had some sarcastic remarks as well throughout the dialectic but Plato must have ignored them or choose not to include them because their remarks would have been unimportant So why did Plato include the remark city of swine and why did Glaucon call it a city of swine In order to understand the remark city of swine we must first understand why Plato is describing the city Why Plato is describing the city is that they are looking for the answer to what exactly justice is For they had failed to come up with a reasonable answer in earlier attempts to define what justice was In earlier attempts to define justice Cephalus said to tell the truth and repay ones debts 331c Socrates however dismissed this with the insane man example Polemarchus said that it was just or right to give back to each man what was due to him This Polemarchus specifies as doing good to ones friends and harm to ones enemies 331e-332b This too was easily dismissed by Socrates that it cant be part of justice to do harm to anybody and one can be mistaken as to who their real friends are Therminacus idea for justice was justice is for the strong Socrates used the good doctor to refute this claim as well and showed that justice isnt for the strong So with no real answer
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